Search all of my sites with Google

Monday, September 28, 2009

DIY State Of Charge Meter?

I've been reading around, and found someone in the EVDL mailing list is thinking a bit like me. They posted a link recently, about a turn-of-the-previous-century SOC meter called a Sangamo.

Basically, what it does is use a shunt with a movable center tap, and the charge going in spins up an electromechanical counter to read out battery capacity in Ah, and the charge going out spins the same counter back down to null that out as it is used up in the motor. The center tap is adjusted to compensate for the fact that you'll put more into the batteries than you actually get out.

I have a few electromechanical counters around here that I could set up to count this; I think one I got many years ago at Apache Reclamation runs on 28VDC for aircraft stuff, and is a 3-digit power-on counter. That might mean that it can't be run in reverse to count back down, but if it can it'd be perfect for this.

I'm tempted to try working out how to build one just because it is old technology that is "good enough", and is certainly durable enough for the heat and vibration the bike endures. An electronic one isn't necessarily. Plus, this one would cost me nothing but time and brain power, neither of which I have in abundance but do have more of than money. ;)

2 comments:

  1. Nowadays i see state of charge based on just the open circuit voltage. But that has the drawback that it depends on how long the voltage has been settling. This technique seem to address that problem.

    ReplyDelete
  2. There are any number of ways to implement this technique, and it is used electronically by things like the Watts Up meter or the much much better Cycle Analyst by http://ebikes.ca and probably other products as well.

    For instance, electromechanically I could use a small linear actuator with no spring return, and paint the actuator bar itself from green to yellow to red, then have the motor in it controlled by the meter electronics. Extend it more to show more green as it charges, then run in reverse to show more red as it discharges.

    A servo-motor-driven analog gauge could be used.

    A digital electromechanical counter (like that power-on-hours meter I mentioned) could be used (as long as it can count either direction; some are freewheeled inside so they can't be reversed, like odometers).

    Anything that "remembers" it's display state without power applied, and can be driven by a simple DC voltage or DC current would work.

    ReplyDelete

Alternate suggestions or improvements to anything that's been posted is very welcome, and extreme detail is preferred to brevity.

Keep in mind that unless you leave an email address in your comment, I haven't any way to reply to you except to reply to your comment here. That means if you want a reply, you'll have to come back to *this* blog entry and it's comments to see my reply to you, unless you leave some method of contact within your comment.